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san clemente
Joined: 1/14/2008
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Posted: Dec/30/2008 7:52 PM PST
No really I have been working with this guy, he stripes his woods his tee shots measure out in the 250 to 280 range. In real life guys that's long so don't start, yet he has never shot in the 80s. He doesn't lose more than a ball or two per round so we worked on his short game. We opened his putting stance and marked his putter grip stopping him from choking up on the short ones. Then we changed his chipping club from a 60 degree wedge to a 9 iron, now his chips get to the hole and take the break he reads. Last he learned to splash the ball out of the bunker, all this took 3 hours
over 2 weeks. Saturday he shot 79 and Monday 83 tomorrow I wouldn't be surprised if he beats me. After Monday he told me he now knew why the short game was so important,"it takes the pressure off the rest of your game"
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Joined: 12/05/2007
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Posted: Jan/02/2009 6:33 PM PST
in his case, his short game was definately his problem. but not everyones short game is terrible though most people do struggle there starting out. if you can hit it 280 and keep it on the course, you can definatly get to the 80's pretty quickly
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Joined: 6/23/2008
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Posted: Jan/05/2009 5:42 PM PST
Interesting string guys. I have to say it depends on the golfer - but I personally am right on with CP. My driver had stunk for way too long and for a while I found myself hitting OB and dropping so often I just expected it. Lessons and weekly practice since Feb 08 have helped the driver and subsequently the irons as well. I would suggest newbies should work mid irons and woods until 75-80% consistent (which in turn means a good swing has developed with proper movement) then work on the short game more. (Which now I need to do - lessons start again in Feb!)
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san clemente
Joined: 1/14/2008
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Posted: Jan/07/2009 8:15 PM PST
Guys we all know that any new golfer is gonna go to the range and beat balls but most new player spend all their practice time at it.
Any pro worth his salt spends part of every lesson putting a wedge in your hand most every pro I know sends students to the putting green after the lesson. Of course you need to be able to knock it off the tee, but believe me until you can land and stop a ball on a green 9 out of 10 times from 50 yards from a good lie, you may be paying green fees but your not playing golf. When you can do that and go 3 rounds without 4 putting you have enough short game to start. By the way most golf schools wont even let you hold a driver of mid iron until you are pretty darn good with a wedge. Thats the club to develop a good swing with.
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Joined: 12/19/2008
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Posted: Jan/28/2009 9:43 PM PST
Thanks for all the comments guys - am taking on board. And having lessons. And seeing what's on the 'net. Great stuff.
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Branchburg
Joined: 4/08/2008
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Posted: Jan/31/2009 10:39 AM PST
Go on line and find an old book called 295 Golf Lessons by Billy Casper. Seriously. It's a great book and is set up in small one paragraph lessons about all aspects of the game. Grip, Stance, backswing, etc. Plus trouble shots. This is how I learned. You can also ask this question to any of the pros at www.isuckatgolf.net , they'll answer any question for free.
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Joined: 12/19/2008
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Posted: Feb/04/2009 11:54 AM PST
Thanks for that. I looked at isuckatgolf.net and it looks an interesting concept.
As I have been looking around, I also found a good starter guide at www.havefunplaygolf.com.
There is also some good stuff on www.ehow.com.
I haven't heard of the book by Billy Casper, but I will hunt it out.
Thanks again.
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Joined: 4/13/2009
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Posted: Apr/13/2009 12:32 AM PST
Quote: Originally posted by duckybutters Well you were pretty lame back then remember  happy holiday!!
well said guyz.
http://www.forgangolf.com/
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Joined: 5/12/2008
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Posted: May/25/2009 9:11 AM PST
I have to agree with Fitness on this one. Sure, if you're a good enough player that reaching a 400-yard hole in 2 isn't an issue, then yes, focus on the short game. But if you're at the level where, standing on a 400-yard tee, you know you're as likely to make an 8 as you are a 5, it's not the 20-foot putts you need to work on most.
I'm a 21 handicap, so I shoot in the low 90s on a good day. But I still go through a stretch of a few holes each round where I can't get the clubface on the ball and will go triple-double-triple or whatever. Of course my short game needs work, but I consider it adequate for a player at my level. Once I get my swing (and mind) consistent enough to be trustworthy for 18 holes, I'll spend more time worrying about the finesse game.
I'll say one other thing: Get fitted for your wedges in particular. I play a Ping silver dot (3.75* upright), but for a long time my wedges were cheap things straight off the rack. I didn't realize it, but I was doing weird things with my setup to try to get the wedges to feel like my Ping irons, and that's part of why I had so many mis-hits with them. Now my SW and LW are just like the rest of my irons, I approach them the same way, and my results with them are a lot better.
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