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Moncton New Brunswick
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Posted: Aug/16/2007 6:44 PM PST
Ok I think just about every golfer I've had the pleasure of meeting or golfing with, has had the same complaint. SLOW PLAY, and supposed golfers who either don't know or don't care about the rules of golf etiquette.IF they don't know, then who's to blame for their ignorance?
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Seattle, WA
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Posted: Aug/16/2007 7:02 PM PST
People seem to have less consideration in general these days generally and that shows itself in people not thinking or willing to let others play through when it comes to Golf. Maybe some will say it's always been like that and more people are on the courses now (much more popular game than before) so this is more noticeable. However, I have noticed a gigantic difference in attitudes from when I started playing twenty years ago or so.
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Marietta, GA
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Posted: Aug/17/2007 7:42 AM PST
I play pretty slow. Not by choice, but because I'm really not all that good. All those extra shots do take time you know.
But I have absolutely no problem with people playing through as long as we're the only thing holding up the speed of play. But if there's a slow foursome in front of me, don't expect me to let you play through, since I'll just be waiting again, and the next group will be up on my tail.
I've seen just as much poor etiquette from fast/impatient golfers as I've seen from slow ones.
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Orem, UT
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Posted: Aug/17/2007 8:13 AM PST
Quote: Originally posted by Jprice I've seen just as much poor etiquette from fast/impatient golfers as I've seen from slow ones.
I agree with you there. It's not just an issue of poor etiquette from slow golfers, but from fast ones as well. It seems in this day and age, that everyone is in too much of a hurry to be inconvenienced by anything. Golf for me is all about being outdoors, enjoying the company of friends, and forgetting about work and other stresses. I don't need stress from rude people as well. So let's all help with the attitude problem by being civil on the course at least.
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Bangkok
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Posted: Aug/17/2007 8:42 PM PST
There's a way you can play badly, fast!
Any kind of slow play is extremely frustrating...
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Orem, UT
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Posted: Aug/18/2007 6:11 AM PST
That seems to be a good list, Del. Here's a retaliation rule that a friend of mine uses, but I would highly discourage:
21. If a player in the group behind you hits into you, do not pull out your 3 Wood and hit the ball back at the offending player. It is best to let the player know that he/she has hit into you in a civilized way and then move on.
My friend really did that! A guy hit into us, and he took out his 3 Wood and hit a punch shot right back at the guy, who had to duck to avoid getting hit. Granted, the guy did purposefully hit into us because my pace of play wasn't the fastest when this happened, but I was so embarassed to be with this friend after that. We didn't golf together again until just a few months ago. He's a lot more cool-headed now, luckily.
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Moncton New Brunswick
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Posted: Aug/18/2007 9:33 AM PST
I've had it happen only twice in all the times that I've played golf, having someone drive into my party. The first time I considered it an honest mistake. The second time I got just a tad annoyed and marked his ball by jumping on it eight times. The third and last time I airmailed it back to him, and never had a fourth occasion. Hitting into another group can let that group know you'd like them to step it up a bit, but its also very dangerous. I made the mistake of advancing past the person hitting, and my son taught me a valuable lesson, he hit it (by accident) off the heel of his 7 iron and it hopped/skipped across and ricocheted off my noggin. I ended up with a lump and a headache, but like I said it taught me a lesson, now consider a shot coming at you from a driver and you can do some serious damage. So now if some guy hits into my group, I'm going to airmail it as far into the woods or nearby pond as I can hit it.
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Orem, UT
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Posted: Aug/18/2007 9:36 AM PST
I'd consider hitting it into the pond, or simply take the ball, but I don't think that I want to deal with the possible liability if I actually struck a golfer with the "airmailed package." Yeah, I think hitting it into the pond would send a good message.
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Minnesota
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Posted: Aug/18/2007 11:03 PM PST
Part of the problem is just the casual golfer spending too much time looking for his ball. A shot only takes a few seconds, so another 20 of them isn't going to make a big difference. But taking a few minutes to search for a ball several times starts to add up quick unless he runs out of balls and leaves.
Then there are the players that like to take three practice swings before each shot. I can stand one practice swing, but two should be outlawed, and three a firing offense.
I partially blame the pros. Watching the ladies putt can be agonizing. You're telling me that you take thousands of putts every week and you need your caddy to verify that your feet are aligned? The men can be just as bad. Furyk should get fined $1k for every time he steps back from the ball. It's somewhat excusable when it's their profession, but there's no reason for the weekend hacker to follow suit.
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South Florida
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Posted: Aug/19/2007 5:20 AM PST
i understand the frustration of slow play. Playing in 97 degree heat 9 holes has taken me 3 1/2 hours. 2 HOURS WAY TOO LONG! However, players need to understand that everyone has to start somewhere and nobody was born knowing the game. This is a hard enough game to learn without 100 mph golf balls purposely raining down on you.
Someone hit into us with my son in my group. It was Thursday at around 11 a.m. So its not like we were holding up weekend traffic. Lucky for that jerk, it landed nowhere near my son. The look of fear on my wifes face was classic! It was one of those "please just let it be, and dont make a scene that will get you arrested!"
Three practice swings is a bit much, but hiting towards my group is inexcusable. If you are in that much of a hurry, why play? I thought the purpose was to ENJOY it.
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